Podcast With Ruby On Rails Creator Jason Fried

This Week In Tech has a podcast with Jason Fried
Amber and Leo talk with Jason Fried of 37Signals, creators of Basecamp, Backpack, Writeboard, and Ta-da List and, of course, Ruby on Rails.
There's also the Signal vs. Noise Weblog and their book, Defensive Design for the Web.
Download the Podcast here (running time: 40:46) Inside the Net 5: Jason Fried of 37Signals